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Tagami Wasp
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Sarz'na Khumatari
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Posted - 2009.11.20 18:42:00 -
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Wait, was it not last year that people whined about BO BS being utterly useless? Now people are complaining that the scouts for the BO gangs are doing their job well? Seems that all is working as intended. If you can't stand the heat, don't go in the kitchen.
<--We cloak.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.14 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 14/12/2009 20:26:05
I see the whine is still strong in this thread. Cloak is fine, grow some...
HTFU or GTFO.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.15 14:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Furb Killer
There are still fast moving gangs, risks at gates, covert cyno hotdrops, local is handy but by doing what dominion is supposed to do, more people per system, it really isnt trivial to see a red when you are ignoring intel channels.
Risk is fine, but why shouldnt afk cloakers have risk? Not paying attention for a moment on intel channels (in provi enough of the systems, especially the upgrades once, have 20+ people in them, my screen resolution is not large enough to look at everyone in local at once without it occupying half my screen), and one of the roaming reds is on you. Not to mention with the amount of them it becomes quickly unprofitable if you dock up every time one is near your systems, and then also add neutrals who go pirate or reds who use neutral alts for tackling/scouting. All in all i have enough risk when i am behind the computer, but the afk cloaker has no risk at all when he is not behind his computer.
If you can't handle the heat , get out of the kitchen. I haven't looked in our KB, but I am sure I'll find a lolfit of yours there. You go into Provi, you'll be shot and shot again. If you didn't know, you now do.As for cloak, it is fine, hell it gives you -40% resolution. If you can't get safe in the time it takes for a HAC to lock you, you deserve to lose your ship. Align?
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.15 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 15/12/2009 23:25:08
Agreeing with Liang ( The sky is falling!!! RUN!).
Checked our KB Furb Killer. You don't fly in smaller than 15 men gangs. I smell chicken****.
Your one and only solo kill: http://www.ushrakhan.com/alliance/edk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=44885
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.16 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Medidranda Livoga
So it seems to be that you have to PVE in gangs?
In 0.0? What a novel idea. Maybe fit a point or neuts on your ship? Hell, you might even snag some red kills as you rat or plex. You never know!!
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.17 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 17/12/2009 20:39:43
Originally by: Medidranda Livoga
I love it when people take single sentence out of context. *clap clap* It¦s not worth it (reward-wise) unless you are plexing or in wormhole sorry to say. Ratting in PVP ship is sensible, sure. Not just fitting point or neut... Why PVP in suboptimal fit. After all, you aren¦t doing it either. 
I've used this before, because it's the most recent kill while plexing (they tend to not bother us after a few such encounters  )
http://www.ushrakhan.com/alliance/edk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=77633
As you said, we don't plex in PvP fit, nope...
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 17/12/2009 22:15:39
MWD allows warriors better hits (larger sig). But I would not fly a ship in 0.0 w/out a MWD.
Still I don't see how cloak affects you. I think Liang is right. You just want to have isk handed to you in a silver platter and those damn cloakers instapopped, cause they touched your special domi.
Still I don't see why you can't find a good counter, all of the rest of us, obviously have.
BTW, we laugh at the pathetic Provi pet's efforts to imitate us in our home systems. You know why? Cause we are not you. We are not afraid to undock, we take measures to counter the cloakers and when they uncloak, we engage, not run. Finally when one of us loses a ship to one, we look at what was done wrong, and train to not do it again.
In conclusion, the mods to counter the cloakers are already there, grow some...
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:33:00 -
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Looks at thread title.
Yes, I agree, the issue is that you need to grow some and stop being chicken and realise that if it is not a problem with the game, it is a problem with you. Accept that you don't have the... guts to undock, you should not be in 0.0 and go back to farming missions in empire.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.19 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 19/12/2009 17:49:39
Can you please tell me what is you want?
1) CCP to remove local so you can't see the reds and have to guess whether they are AFK, or waiting to kill you, leading to peace of mind and perceived security.
2) CCP to remove cloak because you can't handle risk and want 0.0 to be hisec safe.
3) To have been born with a spine and cohjones.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.19 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Medidranda Livoga
Originally by: Tagami Wasp
Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 19/12/2009 17:49:39
Can you please tell me what is you want?
1) CCP to remove local so you can't see the reds and have to guess whether they are AFK, or waiting to kill you, leading to peace of mind and perceived security.
2) CCP to remove cloak because you can't handle risk and want 0.0 to be hisec safe.
3) To have been born with a spine and cohjones.
1 would be nice, 2 and 3 are you.
Faceless alt posting on forums... guess what, I see you still looking for them cohones, no worries mate, they might drop after you turn 13. 
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.20 19:48:00 -
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What is actually discussed is that cloak is just fine, needs no changes and that those that ask for anti-cloak measures need to:
1) realize they don't have the guts to be in 0.0
2) grow some
3) otherwise move to hisec
Some people comment on local and it's usage as intel tool, on which I'd like to comment that I support delayed local. I'd like it to be wh-like with the addition of pilots taking action vs other ships leading to them being shown in local, not just talking. Anyone shooting at another ship (PC or NPC) should show up. Miners, if they keep quiet, should have the luxury of not showing up.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.20 23:48:00 -
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I think everyone agrees the solution to all your problems is...
grow a pair.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.21 03:08:00 -
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Cloak is fine, stop whining and trying to create a straw man. There is no problem. It's all in your mind.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.24 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 24/12/2009 15:16:48
Originally by: Clone 231B
Edited by: Clone 231B on 24/12/2009 04:23:03
Originally by: chrisss0r
the afk docker does the same.
No, this statement has been proven false.
You opinions are not axioms, nor have they been proved because you say so. If you think like that you are delusional.
I see the whine strong in this one. Who are the bad AFK cloakers that blew up his mining barge, while cloaked?
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.24 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Xeronn
give me 1 (one) method of agressively pursuing and engaging him. Even if my chanches of killing him are 1% . One method , and i`ll give up this argument . One. And no , "wait for him and be prepared " doesnt count
... What else did I miss here?...
Only comparable thing (on some level) is a NPC station , but at least there you know where he is and you know where he`ll come out @ undock.
Maybe I am dumb , please explain to me , how do you fight permacloakers . By fight I mean a way for me to take the initiative . Waiting for them to make a move is not an nswer.
Well, you obviously have some good ideas, but your problem is that you don't have the B*A*L*L*S to use them. You want to be safe, able to grief other pilots at NPC stations but you can't put yourself forward as bait, so that you can kill that SB trying to gank you. I guess it's a psychological discrepancy or you probably don't trust your corpmates enough to put your safety in their hands.
Btw, just for your information, a couple of months back we were being camped in our home station by mercs hired by Sylph. Guess what? They lost a couple of T3s to our defenses, tens of recons and SBs. In the end they withdrew. We went on to wardec Sylph (as we have them now) and harvest their tears.
I guess 0.0 is not for you mate.
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